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  1. 183-187 King Street North
    City of Waterloo
    Developer: Maison Canada


    11-storey | 37-units | 185 bedrooms

    Perspective Drawing



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    From Kitchener-Waterloo | Member Since Dec 2009 | 5,680 Posts
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    Waterloo City Council Meeting March 26, 2012 6:30pm

    10. CONSENT MOTION


    That Consent Motion Items (a) to (i) be approved.

    c) Demolition Control Application DC2012-03
    Maison Canda
    183, 185, 187 King Street North
    Page 101
    Report No: DS2012-003
    Prepared By: Erica Ogden

    Recommendation:

    “That Waterloo City Council approve Development Services report DS2012-003 and approve Demolition Control Application DC2012-03, Maison Canada., for the lands known municipally 183, 185, and 187 King Street North in accordance with Section 8 of DS2012-003.”

    Executive Summary

    Maison Canada has submitted an application to demolish the existing buildings on the properties known municipally as 183, 185, 187 King Street North (see Location Map). The subject lands contain two (2) single detached dwellings and one (1) 3 storey apartment building and will be legally consolidated to form one single parcel of land. The demolition has been requested to facilitate the redevelopment of the lands for the purpose of constructing a new 11-storey, 37-unit apartment building containing 185 bedrooms.

    The subject property is located within the Area of Demolition Control as outlined in By-law No. 86-122 and therefore the dwellings may only be demolished with Council's approval.

    Staff support the issuance of a demolition permit based on the following:
    • the proposed redevelopment is in keeping with the Official Plan;
    • the proposed redevelopment is in keeping with the Demolition Control By-law 86-122;
    • the proposed redevelopment provides an intensification opportunity in an area planned for high density redevelopment; and
    • the proposed building may provide an opportunity for affordable and/or rental housing in close proximity to existing transit services.


    Location Map


    Exisiting Conditions 183 King Street North


    Exisiting Conditions 185 King Street North


    Exisiting Conditions 187 King Street North


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    Site Plan
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    Pathetic.

    Northdale may be under a development freeze, but lets continue to fuck up King street.

    Students only and no mixed use. A winning combination for the developer, loosing for everyone else.
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    From Kitchener | Member Since Jan 2010 | 1,162 Posts
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    I have totally lost count of how many of these stucco one use monsters are under construction and or proposed.
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  8. From Kitchener | Member Since May 2010 | 121 Posts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lugnut
    Pathetic.

    Northdale may be under a development freeze, but lets continue to fuck up King street.

    Students only and no mixed use. A winning combination for the developer, loosing for everyone else.
    It is such a shame. Prefer these things in Northdale. At least King Street north of University has already been lost. It isn't too late to save King St between Brideport and Bricker but this project definitely sets things back. The stucco blight is approaching Uptown. I'm sure the city thinks it is a good thing because that will bring more consumers - but at what cost?
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    This unbuilt development is listed in a residential listing magazine as for sale for $18 Million. I believe it was listed as having 205 bedrooms, which equates to $88 k per bed. Another building that is maxed out at 5 beds/unit. Again, no balconies.
    Last edited by planningthatplannyplan; 04-30-2012 at 07:29 PM.
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    From Kitchener-Waterloo | Member Since Dec 2009 | 5,680 Posts
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    Demolition equipment...
    July 29, 2012





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    From Kitchener-Waterloo | Member Since Dec 2009 | 5,680 Posts
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    The site's been cleared...
    August 13, 2012







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    RIP :'(

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    I have a feeling that none of these stucco monsters are going to last much more than 10years in their current format. Maybe it's wishful thinking but hopefully the first floors can be converted to mixed use and the units can be rent/sold to anyone not just students.

    On a separate note, as these developments continue we are going to start to create a seasonal ghost town effect in certain areas as whole buildings are going to be virtually vacant. Even with UW's co-op program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhussey
    Maybe it's wishful thinking but hopefully the first floors can be converted to mixed use
    There is certainly a strong incentive for that switch, and I expect the building owners to lobby Waterloo City Council hard on this issue.

    This occurred to me as I was looking at the new building in King and Albert. Rents in the first floor could easily be trebled if converted to commercial space. If I were the owner of that building I would be all over the WCC pushing for rezoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhussey
    Maybe it's wishful thinking but hopefully the first floors can be converted to mixed use and the units can be rent/sold to anyone not just students.
    If you take a close look at a lot of the newer towers, you can see that the first floor generally contains a large "amenity" space with large pane glass windows. I expect in time a lot of these to become separate retail units.

    Some others, I can imagine will awkwardly renovate first floor bedrooms into retail. But without the zoning changing underneath them, they would likely not put any effort into it.
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    From Kitchener-Waterloo | Member Since Dec 2009 | 5,680 Posts
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    Excavation - September 5, 2012












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    From Kitchener-Waterloo | Member Since Dec 2009 | 5,680 Posts
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    The colours in the building behind that one remind me of the Stata Centre. More right angles, though.
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    December 18, 2012



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    I remember when its seven story "skyscraper" neighbour to the South along King went up, and thinking (1) it is much needed and jokingly (2) who the heck did the builder sleep with to get it approved since back then nothing of that height was being approved anywhere in Waterloo.

    Today it looks puny next to its eleven+ story neighbours all around. How times change and many neighbourhoods could have been preserved had the city approved proper student housing back then.
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