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UrbanWaterloo
01-02-2010, 10:23 AM
CSL eyes region for expansion
December 15, 2007
JOSH BROWN - RECORD STAFF - WATERLOO REGION
http://news.therecord.com/article/283076

The Canadian Soccer League wants another kick at Waterloo Region.

The 10-team outfit, based primarily in southern Ontario, is eyeing expansion and the league has made this area one of its prime targets.

"I think with the rapid growth of Kitchener-Waterloo, it's an obvious top- of-our-list choice," said commissioner Cary Kaplan, who also wants to add new teams in Hamilton and Kingston. "The soccer community has expressed interest for a long time. We're looking for an ownership group or an individual that would want to purchase a franchise."

The cost? A one-time fee of $100,000. But it will take about another $100,000 annually to keep the team afloat.

"If you get between 500 and 1,000 fans per game, it's not only an exciting venture but you can make money," said Kaplan. "It's not a situation where the costs are such a burden."

The league dates back some 80 years and is a reincarnation of former entities such as the National Soccer League and the Canadian Professional Soccer League, among others. Last year, the league was split into two divisions -- one which boasted five teams from Windsor to Trois-Rivieres, Que., and another that featured five clubs in the Toronto area tied to ethnic groups.

The season goes from May to October and teams play 22 games, half at home and half on the road. Clubs also compete in a Cup tournament that runs independent from league play and which carries a $25,000 prize for the winner.

Player salaries are negotiable and most are on a per-game basis. Some teams have flown in players from Europe while others have relied on homegrown talent. Current teams are averaging about 500 fans per game and charging about $10 a ticket.

The CSL has come and gone in Waterloo Region before. The last attempt -- the Kitchener Kickers -- fizzled more than a decade ago when fans and funds dried up. But Kaplan says the league is in better shape now with budgets that can be managed when decent fan support, sponsors and concessions are considered.

The Kickers' old home, Centennial Stadium, still stands. Laurier's University Stadium would be another alternative for any new club coming this way.

"We've always had a lot of interest in the area so it would be natural to have a team in the CSL," said Waterloo's Niki Budalic, who has spent the past two seasons with the league's Serbian White Eagles. "Given that there are teams in London, Windsor and St. Catharines, I think it would be logical to expand here."

Budalic, who has played for FC Haugesund in Norway's first division, says the key to success is money and support.

"The most important thing is to create a club structure where they can tie in and co-ordinate with local clubs around here and have some sort of affiliate program and get a lot of interest at the grass-roots level," the 29-year-old midfielder said. "It's important for general interest and presence in the community.

"Secondly, they need sponsors and some sort of corporate affiliation. There is not enough revenue from ticket sales to sustain a team like this or a club structure."

Kitchener and District Soccer League president Tony Kocis also believes the region has the talent to outfit a local CSL club. And he thinks his league would be a natural feeder league.

"Some of the KDSL teams would probably lose a player or two to the CSL team," he said. "But you know what? That's what the goal is. That's what all the players and teams are looking for . . . for their players to go somewhere higher."

Spokes
01-02-2010, 11:21 AM
CSL commissioner has expansion dreams

By STEVE BUFFERY
Last Updated: 13th May 2009, 5:16am

Canadian Soccer League commissioner Cary Kaplan unveiled aggressive plans for his league yesterday.

Kaplan shocked onlookers at the annual CSL kick-off media conference by announcing that he hopes to expand his 17-team league by 13 more teams, including at least six in western Canada -- most likely Calgary, Edmonton, Regina, Saskatoon, Winnipeg and Red Deer.

As well, he hopes to add franchises in Hamilton, Niagara Falls and Kitchener and plans to expand the league's International Division.

The International Division currently includes four teams based in the Toronto area, the Italia Shooters, Portugal FC, Toronto Croatia and defending CSL champions, the Serbian White Eagles. Kaplan said clubs such as Korea FC, Africa and Greece may be added in the near future.

"The International Division has been called controversial," said Kaplan. "But Toronto is the most multicultural city in the world and in this city, it works perfectly."

Kaplan said he sees the CSL, the only all-Canadian professional soccer league, expanding to 20 teams in the GTA alone. He added that there are two or three teams ready to join now, but he doesn't want to expand until there are six clubs absolutely ready to begin operations.

Kaplan said another goal is for the CSL champion to be invited to compete in the Nutrilite Canadian Championship, joining Toronto FC of the MLS and the Montreal Impact and Vancouver Whitecaps of the United Soccer Leagues in the tournament (Vancouver is slated to join the MLS in 2011).

As well, Rogers TV announced plans yesterday to broadcast a CSL game of the week this season, mostly on Saturday nights.

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/soccer/2009/05/13/9441111-sun.html (http://www.torontosun.com/sports/soccer/2009/05/13/9441111-sun.html)

Oliver.Ashton@Remax.net
04-02-2010, 06:52 PM
I would really love to see this happen.

garthdanlor
04-03-2010, 09:03 AM
Yeah, I'd love to see a multi-division semi-pro league become firmly established in Canada complete with European style promotion/relegation within the divisions. The Golden Triangle could easily support 3 or 4 teams in such a league if the team budgets were strictly limited. The addition of so many new teams would allow for a proper Canada wide FA Cup (or CSA Cup, more properly) with the winners gaining entry to the CONCACAF Champion's League. Now MLS & TFC simply would not be interested in promotion/relegation between the CSL and MLS but I firmly believe that they (and the other "big" teams in Canada) would go for an expanded "CSA Cup" as it would ultimately lead to the expansion of interest (and talent) within the game in Canada.

garthdanlor
02-08-2011, 01:08 PM
Looks like we might see a local semi-pro soccer team as early as this Spring. I think Kitchener-Waterloo United is a good name for a team based in the Twin Cities...

http://www.therecord.com/sports/local/article/482577--group-shooting-for-canadian-soccer-league-franchise

Section ThirtyOne
02-08-2011, 04:49 PM
Excellent news!

I just wonder if it is really feasible to use Centennial Stadium in it's current condition. One would think that major renovations would have to be made to bring it up to safety standards, and the city has shown little interest in such work. Seagram Stadium would likely be the best bet, as everything is in place and ready to go for the upcoming season.

BuildingScout
02-08-2011, 04:51 PM
Seagram Stadium would likely be the best bet, as everything is in place and ready to go for the upcoming season.

or the newly renovated warrior field at UW?

Section ThirtyOne
02-08-2011, 05:10 PM
or the newly renovated warrior field at UW?

I haven't been there since the renovations. What's your take?

garthdanlor
02-08-2011, 05:38 PM
Excellent news!

I just wonder if it is really feasible to use Centennial Stadium in it's current condition. One would think that major renovations would have to be made to bring it up to safety standards, and the city has shown little interest in such work. Seagram Stadium would likely be the best bet, as everything is in place and ready to go for the upcoming season.

Yeah, I hate the thought of seeing or playing soccer on a "plastic pitch", but until Centennial gets some major renos the club and fans would be better off at one of the university stadia.

Spokes
02-08-2011, 11:59 PM
Excellent news!

I just wonder if it is really feasible to use Centennial Stadium in it's current condition. One would think that major renovations would have to be made to bring it up to safety standards, and the city has shown little interest in such work. Seagram Stadium would likely be the best bet, as everything is in place and ready to go for the upcoming season.

Do they play soccer at Seagrams? I always thought there was a size difference between the fields?

And what exactly is wrong with Centennial? I always thought there were structural issues with the stands, but they still host games there with people seated in the stands.

BuildingScout
02-09-2011, 07:04 AM
And what exactly is wrong with Centennial? I always thought there were structural issues with the stands, but they still host games there with people seated in the stands.

UW field is preferable mostly because of what we learned from the Toronto FC/Montreal Alouettes experience: it is better to have a small field that is almost full, than a large half empty stadium.

KevinL
02-09-2011, 01:14 PM
Do they play soccer at Seagrams? I always thought there was a size difference between the fields?

You can't play international soccer on a Canadian football pitch, no, but it's within regulation size (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_football_pitch) for anything less senior.

Spokes
02-09-2011, 04:49 PM
You can't play international soccer on a Canadian football pitch, no, but it's within regulation size (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_football_pitch) for anything less senior.

Oh ok, that makes sense then.