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UrbanWaterloo

12-30-2009, 04:29 PM

the42
42 Bridgeport Road, Uptown Waterloo
www.the42.ca

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Main Floor Businesses
Sun Life Financial
Momentum Developments
Hairdresser

UrbanWaterloo

12-30-2009, 04:33 PM

the BUILDING
Contributions from many disciplines have realized the42: An ethos borne of smart design and eco-friendly construction methods that supersede any trend.
A building built for the living. Human friendly, the42 was conceived from the inside out, with no detail left unturned.
Available fully integrated communication technologies living within the walls.
Every human scale space is composed of the smartest in current low VOC and renewable materials.
The42 is about balance: Your balance, a balance of work and play, of form following function.
Life is to be lived, and the42 frees you up for just that.
Your home should be a destination: A place to relax and unwind.
Living at the42 you¹re unencumbered. Free of maintenance, you are free to indulge in your lifestyle.
It’s about delivering what you need and what you want, and nothing more.

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the DISTRICT
The 42 is steps away from culturally rich Uptown Waterloo. Enjoy dining from fine to casual, from domestic to international cuisine, impromptu or reserved.
After dinner take in a Waterloo Stage Theater play, an art house movie at The Vintage Princess theatre or go fully digital at the intellectually inspired Princess Twins.
Grab an Italian Gelato, a sweet Bon Choix, or a nightcap at The Jane Bond.
Pick up a flick at Gen-X Video, grab some market fresh produce and escape to your oasis in the42.
Life in Uptown Waterloo becomes animated with seasonal festivals such as Buskerfest, The Jazz Festival and Oktoberfest.
Enjoy some retail therapy at some of the finest shops the Region has to offer.
All of this only steps from your door.

ECO CHIC
It's not trite, it's not a fad, you're investing in your health, our next generation's health and the earth's stewardship.
Pretty big words from a small condominium project.
A work in progress, the42 is at every turn making an effort to ensure that your condominium finds a balance between eco friendly, renewable and human friendly materials. Specify vanities and stair treads sourced from reclaimed urban forest. Select from low VOC renewable flooring such as cork or bamboo and zero VOC paint finishes. Enjoy the common area terrace garden. Located on the second level, this outdoor garden and green roof minimize the site's heat island footprint. The garden provides building insulation reducing heating and cooling costs while consuming CO2 and on top of that delivers a private landscaped aesthetic to owners.
It's your home oasis and a welcome retreat from industrialized toxins, making the best decisions with what's currently available, the42 is built for everyone.
Sustainability and ecological responsibility are inherent in the structure of the building, and in each suite:

The Building Provides:

On-site Car Share to reduce parking load and CO2 emissions
Green roof to reduce heat island effect and water runoff
Separate recycling chute for residents
On-site water filtration system
Energy and material efficient central heating and cooling systems
Energy efficient windows and doors
Energy efficient lighting
Reclamation of unused recyclable building site material

Each Suite Provides:

Energy Star appliances
Low impact materials such as cork, bamboo or polished concrete flooring
Recycled content where possible
Low VOC paints and finishes
Low water consumption faucets
Dual flush toilets

Making the best decisions with what's currently available, the42 is built for everyone.

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the STORY
Uptown Waterloo's "the42" is the first in a planned series of artfully designed Momentum Developments projects that will deliver differentiated properties as unique as those who inhabit them.
The42 is the result of design collaboration between Momentum Developments, Quadrangle Architects and local design firm Scribblers' Club.
Based in Waterloo, Ontario, Momentum Developments is a premier commercial and residential real estate development company with specialization in quality institutional grade projects.
Momentum Development's diverse management backgrounds cumulatively provide a distinct and thoughtful vision for each new project. A developer with 10 years of construction and contract management experience, Momentum Development's team consistently delivers completed projects to its residents on time.
The architect, Quadrangle is an award winning Toronto firm with an extensive portfolio including spectacular projects such as BMW's Head office, The Candy Factory Lofts, The CHUM Building, and CityGate Condominiums.
Quadrangle approaches each project as more than a building, "it is a cultural imprint for better living and better working, and genuinely enhances its urban environment." Blending homage to historical trends in architecture with the youthful and hip personality of Uptown Waterloo, the42 makes an impact.
Locally, many are familiar with Uptown Waterloo's Whole-lotta-Gelata, a top-down invention where the Scribblers' Club team designed and managed everything from floor to ceiling. Every attention to detail mimics the colorful whimsy and joy found in a demitasse of gelato.
Momentum Developments has engaged Scribblers' Club's expertise in creating emotive spaces for the42 interiors.

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the PRESENTATION CENTER
We will be offering a limited release of residential units.
The sales office and model suite (Presentation Center) will be located at:

55 Peppler St.
Waterloo, Ontario

The Presentation Center - Opening April 2008

FEATURES & FINISHES

the SUITE

Ceiling height of 10'
Full height double glazed windows
Double glazed sliding door(s) with screen as per plan
Choice of polished concrete or laminate wood flooring
Balcony or Terrace as per plan with exterior lighting and glass railing
Oversize 3' x 7' wood solid core entry door with lever handle and deadbolt
Fully installed stacked washer and dryer vented to exterior
Low VOC latex paint finishes

the KITCHEN

Open concept kitchen layouts with islands or peninsulas as per plan
Choice of designer cabinetry from samples
Choice of granite countertops from samples
Fully installed premium Energy Star appliance package including: 18 cu.ft. frost free fridge, 30” range, built-in microwave hood fan, and multi-cycle built-in dishwasher
Double bowl stainless steel sink
Single handle faucet with pull-out sprayer
Ceramic tile backsplash from builders samples

the BATHROOM

Ceramic tiles from builders samples for floors
Ceramic tiles from builders samples installed for tub/showers and walk-in showers as per plan
5' soaker tub or walk-in shower as per plan
Wide selection of bathroom cabinetry
Granite countertop from builders samples
White porcelain raised vessel sink with single lever faucet
Pressure balanced tub/shower faucet
White dual flush toilet
Bathroom fan vented to exterior

the TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS

In-suite controlled, programmable thermostat controls for heating and cooling
Telephone jacks with category 5e wire in kitchen, living room, den and bedrooms as per plan
Cable TV outlets in kitchen, living room, den and bedrooms as per plan
Smoke and heat detector

BUILDING AMENITIES

Entertainment room complete with cater kitchen
Landscaped BBQ terrace
Green roof to reduce heat island effect and water runoff
Fitness Room
Secure underground parking
On-site Car Share to reduce parking load and CO2 emissions
Car wash area
Secure underground bicycle parking\on-site
Separate recycling chute for residents
On floor storage lockers
Energy and material efficient central heating and cooling systems
Energy efficient windows and doors
Energy efficient lighting
Reclamation of unused recyclable building site material
Enter phone security system

Their ads: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=18792&id=7780366938

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UrbanWaterloo

01-08-2010, 12:42 PM

Another development that will take some time to sort. For now here's December 2009.

December 5, 2009

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December 27, 2009

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jay

01-08-2010, 05:19 PM

I like this project...Any news on any of the retail yet?

UrbanWaterloo

01-13-2010, 12:19 AM

Here's the original prices.

April 2008

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UrbanWaterloo

01-13-2010, 11:36 PM

Newsletter - October 2008

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Newsletter - November 2008

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Newsletter - December 2008

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Newsletter - January 2009

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Newsletter - February 2009

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Newsletter - March 2009

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Newsletter - May 2009

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Newsletter - August 2009

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Newsletter - September 2009

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Newsletter - October 2009

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jay

01-14-2010, 08:24 AM

So they haven't said what retail will be going in?

UrbanWaterloo

01-14-2010, 09:23 AM

No word yet from the builder. Next time we go for a meeting with them (layout adjustments) i'll ask; at least to see if there are any leads.

jay

01-23-2010, 04:40 PM

that pivoting wall mount is cool :)

I really like this project.. The design is really cool and I like the ideas and options they are doing. Only thing I don't like as much is the location. A little further south would have been nice.

Spokes

01-23-2010, 05:14 PM

jay

01-23-2010, 05:43 PM

No place in particular.. Just saying if it was on king somewhere it would be a lot better. Even along regina street there is some areas before the city buildings that could be converted to condos. Then at least you would be right by the Town square.

Bridgeport has the benefit of all the pubs. Since they put coffee culture in that helps also.

It's a catch 22, if your by the shops all the pubs are down the street where if your by the pubs all the shopping is down the street.

Spokes

01-24-2010, 08:35 AM

Ya thats true. I don't think its a major issue. Uptown isn't huge, so you're still a fairly short walk to anything. Would I like to see developments like this in more prominent locations? Yes. Am I upset about this location? No.

diego

01-29-2010, 09:23 AM

I'm not sure how necessary it is to have absolutely all the newsletters in this thread... when I see there are new posts I expect the latest just to see it's year-old news instead

Spokes

01-29-2010, 01:10 PM

Now I can't speak for UrbanWaterloo, but what I think he's trying to do is just get all the back information posted and up to date, so that we have almost an "archives" of information to use as a resource.

UrbanWaterloo

01-29-2010, 05:44 PM

I understand what you're saying diego & that's eventually how this thread will function. As spokes mentioned, I'm just trying to do an archive of this project as well, and all projects for that matter. One of my goals of WW is for it to function as a sort of digital time-capsule for future historians. I could have just said "Project was delayed by a year"; but I imagine some would like to see all the details/process too. That said: I'll finish up with the remaining newsletters I have (a few months are either missing or likely the builder never created them due to delays); try to do a photo tour in the next few days & then do a full photo timeline of this project; then reorganize all the information in chronological order so afterwards the thread does function as "the latest".

Section ThirtyOne

02-03-2010, 12:13 PM

FYI, as of yesterday there are 2 penthouses left: unit T and unit U. Both are quite spendy given their size and 2-floor layout. As for suites, there are 3 of those left: unit H3, unit I1 and unit J3.

I was kind of turned off by the fact that the unit sizes include the square footage of the balcony. It makes the units seem much larger (on paper) than they actually are.

UrbanWaterloo

02-04-2010, 01:52 AM

Facebook Photos: Construction Update Jan 2010
Posted January 11, 2010 @ 8:29pm

Construction of the42 continues to roll along smoothly into 2010. The parking garage is nearing completion, and the 1st storey floors are currently being poured. It won't be long now before the building starts to rise above the hoarding!

View of the42 from the crane - Jan 2010
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South side of the site January 2010
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Shawn

02-04-2010, 09:19 AM

Oh my gosh!! How the heck did you get photos from the top of the crane? They're amazing shots Urban!

RangersFan

02-04-2010, 08:21 PM

Yeah very good shots, are they from the development or construction company?

Spokes

02-04-2010, 08:58 PM

Yeah very good shots, are they from the development or construction company?

They're from the development's facebook page

UrbanWaterloo

02-09-2010, 10:29 AM

Newsletter - January 2010

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UrbanWaterloo

03-02-2010, 09:08 AM

March 1, 2010

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urbandreamer

03-02-2010, 09:26 AM

If the glazing and red brick is up to snuff, this may well turn out to be the best-looking new build Waterloo's seen in decades.

Spokes

03-02-2010, 09:58 AM

I totally agree! I'd like to see this as a model for future projects. How it should be done. I think mid-rise projects like the could really succeed along Columbia.

diego

03-04-2010, 09:33 PM

So how many commercial units will be in this building? I always forget. Will there be any office space at all?

UrbanWaterloo

03-04-2010, 09:57 PM

6 commercial units, although we still haven't heard who the prospective tenants are yet so it could change (ie. if a retailer requested a larger space two units could be merged). No office space, although this is supposed to be "the first in a planned series of artfully designed Momentum Developments projects" so perhaps in other phases.

My family picked up a unit, so I'll have to invite everyone over for a WW Urban Social when it's built next year. :cool:

Spokes

03-04-2010, 10:25 PM

I'd love to see multiple phases of this project. Or other projects by the company of similar style.

MinimumQualified

03-06-2010, 02:56 PM

Is there any update on expected occupancy date?

UrbanWaterloo

03-06-2010, 08:35 PM

January 2011 on the 5th floor.

jay

03-06-2010, 09:01 PM

Great news! I love this building, and it's going up pretty quickly also. We need more of these projects in Uptown

mpd618

03-06-2010, 09:31 PM

Great news! I love this building, and it's going up pretty quickly also. We need more of these projects in Uptown

I'd say we actually need more of these projects elsewhere in the city. On, say, Columbia or Erb.

diego

03-07-2010, 01:29 PM

I'd say we actually need more of these projects elsewhere in the city. On, say, Columbia or Erb.

Yeah it would also be perfect for University along the Northdale neighborhood, especially with all the issues they have now

Spokes

03-07-2010, 11:01 PM

^^ Exactly!! Projects like this along Columbia will go a long way to solving some of the problems. There's no need for high rises there, good quality mid rise buildings would be great. 6-8 floors.

stressfree

03-08-2010, 02:18 PM

Jan 2011 move in? I heard earlier. Sometime in September. I hope it's not Jan 2011.

Spokes

03-08-2010, 04:57 PM

Jan 2011 move in? I heard earlier. Sometime in September. I hope it's not Jan 2011.

No way for Sept after all the delays getting started.

jay

03-08-2010, 06:15 PM

I second that. As someone who lives in Bauer who bought in 2005 and only moved in this past October, never believe the timelines given only months after construction. Soooo many things can come up.

uptownfoodcritic

03-08-2010, 09:09 PM

To be fair, the construction is moving along quite quickly these days. September is not going to happen though.

UrbanWaterloo

03-26-2010, 01:52 PM

The42 Newsletter February 2010
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UrbanWaterloo

04-01-2010, 11:16 AM

March 31, 2010

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UrbanWaterloo

04-07-2010, 12:27 PM

The42 Newsletter March 2010

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Spokes

04-07-2010, 12:37 PM

Im happy to see that they're using local trades companies. Definitely something that bodes well for them within the community.

UrbanWaterloo

04-15-2010, 06:46 AM

April 14, 2010

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UrbanWaterloo

04-28-2010, 04:24 PM

April 27, 2010

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UrbanWaterloo

05-05-2010, 04:35 PM

The42 Newsletter April 2010

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UrbanWaterloo

05-07-2010, 08:35 PM

May 6, 2010

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UrbanWaterloo

05-17-2010, 03:04 PM

May 17, 2010

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Peppler Street
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Rear View From Young Street
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-May172010-8b.jpg

urbandreamer

06-14-2010, 10:47 PM

12 June 2010: Too wet to get any closer.

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/5934/dsc09234q.jpg

To hell with highrises--Waterloo needs another 1000 of these sort of buildings.

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/7405/dsc09235s.jpg

DHLawrence

06-14-2010, 10:58 PM

To hell with highrises--Waterloo needs another 1000 of these sort of buildings.

Could you spare a few for Cambridge? ;)

It's looking good. It would be right at home among the new developments going on in Queen West in Toronto.

UrbanWaterloo

06-18-2010, 05:54 PM

June 17, 2010 - Part 1

Despite initial thoughts, the "north-side" actually gets more sun, at least at this time of year.
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-1b.jpg

Bridgeport & Peppler: a few Sun Life employees (currently down at the Bridgeport plaza) are moving to this corner space.
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-4.jpg

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-13.jpg

Parking
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-14.jpg

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-21.jpg

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-22.jpg

Residential Lobby Area
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-23d.jpg

UrbanWaterloo

06-18-2010, 06:33 PM

June 17, 2010 - Part 2: The 2nd Floor

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-242ndFloor.jpg

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-27.jpg

The last section is a green roof.
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-32.jpg

UrbanWaterloo

06-19-2010, 07:59 AM

June 17, 2010 - Part 3: The 5th & 6th Floor

5th Floor
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-435thFloor.jpg

View North
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-48.jpg

6th Floor
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-54b.jpg

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-62.jpg

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-63.jpg

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-65.jpg

Street Level View: Bridgeport & Peppler
http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-June172010-66.jpg

Spokes

06-19-2010, 08:40 AM

Thanks for all the pics! They look great! This things really coming along quickly. I really like the scale of it for Bridgeport, hopefully we see more. Did they give any indication when they'd be done with the forming and moving on to sealing it up?

jay

06-19-2010, 10:45 AM

Looking good. Glad they leased out some retail space already.

It looks like they are starting to build up the sides to get it ready for windows.

UrbanWaterloo

07-21-2010, 12:01 AM

July 20, 2010

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-July202010-1.jpg

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-July202010-2.jpg

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/UrbanWaterloo/Waterloo/the42/the42-July202010-3b.jpg

Spokes

07-21-2010, 08:47 AM

Great pictures!

Is there a site plan floating around anywhere for this?

UrbanWaterloo

07-21-2010, 02:33 PM

Site Plan: http://www.the42.ca/site-plan.html

http://www.the42.ca/assets/images/floor-plans/the42SitePlan.jpg

Spokes

08-05-2010, 08:38 AM

So I didn't know much about the architect for this project, Quadrangle (http://www.quadrangle.ca/). All I can say, wow. They need to do more projects here. Now. The Saint James Condos would fit great in the warehouse district.

SP!RE

08-05-2010, 01:08 PM

Spokes

08-05-2010, 04:16 PM

Oh yes, Quadrangle is a major firm. I was very shocked and pleased when Momentum selected them as architect, as they do a lot of residential work in Toronto. This development (and Bauer) will hopefully aid in setting a new standard for residential design in Waterloo Region.

Is it shocking that they got them because Quadrangle tends to stay in Toronto, or that their services would cost a lot more, or a bit of both? Or something else?

urbandreamer

08-05-2010, 05:02 PM

Actually, Quadrangle Architects is one of the more offensive firms in Toronto--minus a few high end projects, like their 155 Cumberland building.

Better firms are Architects Alliance or Core Architects (http://www.corearchitects.com/).

jay

08-05-2010, 05:18 PM

Always citing the negative..

Spokes

08-05-2010, 05:20 PM

SP!RE

08-05-2010, 05:52 PM

Their work is hardly "offensive"-- it makes too little a statement to be "offensive". However, no, it's not as good as some of the other modernist firms in Toronto.

It still sets a new level for residential architecture in Waterloo.

urbandreamer

08-05-2010, 06:34 PM

What makes much of Quadrangle's architecture "offensive?" Stuff like this, they allow to pad their bottom line:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7716/dsc09092qy.jpg (photo by me, 12 June 2010 of http://urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?567-West-Harbour-City-%28Plazacorp-36-28s-Quadrangle%29/page63 West Harbour City, Toronto)

Rowe

08-05-2010, 06:56 PM

Paint it red.

SP!RE

08-05-2010, 07:03 PM

I love the taller West Harbour City tower. However, that's an inaccurate example of their work. Those buildings are quite out of character for Quadrangle designs.

DHLawrence

08-05-2010, 09:46 PM

I like West Harbour City too. It's a nice change from a sea of glass--which has its place, but not every place!

Spokes

08-06-2010, 12:48 AM

Have any Wonderful Waterloo members bought in this project?

garthdanlor

08-06-2010, 08:59 AM

I like West Harbour City too. It's a nice change from a sea of glass--which has its place, but not every place!

I think so too...Im pretty sick of the ubiquitous green glass building.

BuildingScout

08-06-2010, 09:21 AM

I think so too...Im pretty sick of the ubiquitous green glass building.

While it is becoming very trendy to criticize glass towers lets not forget that they are an improvement over the previous seriously-over-bricked tiny-windowed architecture.

garthdanlor

08-06-2010, 09:33 AM

While it is becoming very trendy to criticize glass towers lets not forget that they are an improvement over the previous seriously-over-bricked tiny-windowed architecture.
Wasn't aware of any trend. I think there are some fabulous all-glass towers, but I'll take a small windowed art deco skyscraper over a generic green glass tower any day.

BuildingScout

08-06-2010, 09:51 AM

but I'll take a small windowed art deco skyscraper over a generic green glass tower any day.

Unless you happen to work or live in it, that is.

Let me expand on this. First, architecture trends tend to span the globe. This is a bad thing. The number and size of the light intakes have to be adapted to the climate. Say, Santa Fe architecture works great for... drum roll...Santa Fe, New Mexico. In colder, grayer climes such as Canada, large windows, and glass covered atria are a must (see BCE place in Toronto, or whatever the current name of the Hockey Hall of Fame corridor is).

Also architects tend to focus too much on the outside look to the detriment of interior usage. Sometimes this is in alignment with the client's wishes, but many times isn't. The MIT Strata center, for example, is full of unusable space. It has tons of open space where private quiet offices are needed and lots of nooks and crannies where open, square space was needed.

SP!RE

08-06-2010, 10:16 AM

Canada isn't colder and grayer. It depends where you are in Canada. And in the case of Toronto, there are extreme temperatures: very hot summers and very cold winters.

It's simply incorrect to suggest that Toronto's climate demands all-glass towers. And there's nothing about an art deco inspired building that is out of place in our region, historically or climate or design-wise. It's not even detrimental to those who live (or work) inside as you suggested-- there is still substantial window coverage compared to the dingy buildings of the past. Meanwhile, you criticize balconies in one thread, which are a great asset to residents of a building, and then you criticize the bias towards creating a pleasant exterior over a quality interior in this thread.

Your opinions are welcome but I don't see how your post really fit in with the discussion. I'm not trying to be a jerk but rather make you really stand behind what you say.

garthdanlor

08-06-2010, 10:23 AM

Unless you happen to work or live in it, that is.

Let me expand on this. First, architecture trends tend to span the globe. This is a bad thing. The number and size of the light intakes have to be adapted to the climate. Say, Santa Fe architecture works great for... drum roll...Santa Fe, New Mexico. In colder, grayer climes such as Canada, large windows, and glass covered atria are a must (see BCE place in Toronto, or whatever the current name of the Hockey Hall of Fame corridor is).

My criticism isn`t with the use of glass, but specifically with the explosion of (often cheaply made) green glass cladded condo boxes that have popped up all over Vancouver, Toronto, and elsewhere. IMO, they aren`t interesting to look at and while they may be comfortable to live in, it is possible to combine both looks and comfort. I just think these things won`t age well and, in years to come, they will be instantly identifiable as a product of the Nineties/Naughties, and not in a good way.

BuildingScout

08-06-2010, 12:09 PM

Canada isn't colder and grayer.

Seriously? Toronto, to use a random city in Canada averages three hours of sunshine a day from November to February. Atlanta averages 5.5, Santa Fe 7.75.

It's simply incorrect to suggest that Toronto's climate demands all-glass towers.

Strawman. No such claim was made. The statement was: "large windows with glass covered atria are a must". This can be achieved without Saran wrapping the entire building, but it certainly makes glass towers less of a "crime" than in say, Los Angeles.

SP!RE

08-06-2010, 12:21 PM

Then what is wrong with a tower like West Harbour City, which kickstarted this discussion, having smaller windows? I still don't see what point you were trying to argue for/against.

DHLawrence

08-06-2010, 12:42 PM

I would have thought that large glass windows would be a bad thing in Canada. Glass isn't exactly a great insulator.

Urbanomicon

08-06-2010, 12:52 PM

I would have thought that large glass windows would be a bad thing in Canada. Glass isn't exactly a great insulator.

If we're talking energy consumption, glass towers are just about the worst thing you can build.

In Winter, the glass curtain walls have a substantially reduced thermal resistance when compared to more traditional walls; they also have a greater potential for air infiltration through cracks around the window pains as the sealing putty degrades over time. Radiative losses are also greater in the Winter as the warm building can radiate energy to the cold outdoors directly instead of through an intermediate wall at the same temperature as the building.

In Summer, the sun shines unhindered through all of the building's sealed windows making the structure completely uninhabitable without the use of massive chillers (large air conditioners) to keep the structure cool. Without this, these structures would quickly reach temperatures over 50C even on a sunny spring or fall day. They are essentially tall greenhouses with sealed windows.

This results in enourmous amounts of energy being required to heat and cool these structures.

DHLawrence

08-06-2010, 01:02 PM

If we're talking energy consumption, glass towers are just about the worst thing you can build.

In Winter, the glass curtain walls have a substantially reduced thermal resistance when compared to more traditional walls; they also have a greater potential for air infiltration through cracks around the window pains as the sealing putty degrades over time.

Welcome to my house 9_9

So small windows and a lot of brick don't sound like a bad idea after all (depending on the shape at least)

Urbanomicon

08-06-2010, 01:13 PM

Welcome to my house 9_9

So small windows and a lot of brick don't sound like a bad idea after all (depending on the shape at least)

Good practice is generally to not have any (or very few) East and West facing windows (so the sun doesn't shine into the building all day long). If East or West facing windows are present, they should have an exterior shade that blocks direct sunlight (ex. an awning).

BuildingScout

08-06-2010, 01:54 PM

Then what is wrong with a tower like West Harbour City, which kickstarted this discussion, having smaller windows? I still don't see what point you were trying to argue for/against.

Nothing wrong with West Harbour City. I was responding to the blanket criticism by garthdanlor of green glassed buildings.

BuildingScout

08-06-2010, 01:55 PM

I would have thought that large glass windows would be a bad thing in Canada. Glass isn't exactly a great insulator.

Glass is the best insulator there is. You build an outer exterior glass shell, leave ten feet of air gap and then build the second glass enclosed building inside it and only heat the inner structure.

In fact, most buildings in Europe nowadays use glass in such a way. Here's an example:

http://www.le.ac.uk/li/images/DWilson2.12508-118copy_000.jpg

It has BREEAM (BRE Environmental Assessment Method) Excellent rating

Here's another, incorporating an older structure:

http://iguide.travel/photos/Strasbourg-2.jpg

garthdanlor

08-06-2010, 02:27 PM

Nothing wrong with West Harbour City. I was responding to the blanket criticism by garthdanlor of green glassed buildings.
I'm actually fond of green. It's the use of this same tint of green glass over and over again, often (but not always) in very bland boxy buildings that I object too. It gives the skyline a very monotonous look.

Urbanomicon

08-06-2010, 03:25 PM

Glass is the best insulator there is. You build an outer exterior glass shell, leave ten feet of air gap and then build the second glass enclosed building inside it and only heat the inner structure.

That's not the insulative properties of glass, that's the insulative properties of air. Air is a great insulator. That's why our best insulating materials (fibreglass, foam, cellulose, etc.) are designed to contain large air voids. Glass by itself is a relatively poor insulator. You could sandwich 10 feet of air between any substance and obtain similar performance, it's not very practical though and it's an incredible waste of space.

As far as multiple pain glass system go (typical residential windows), even the most efficient are only about R-5 or so. A typical 4" exterior wall is about R-15. Windows are where the vast majority of energy is lost in the winter time, followed by walls and then the roof (due to the roof having a large amount of insulation present (R-30 or more)).

As a Mechanical Engineer, I have performed many heating and cooling calculations.

The numbers if you would like:

Thermal conductivity of glass...1.1 W/(mK)
Thermal conductivity of air...0.025 W/(mK)

For reference, the thermal conductivity of wood ranges from about 0.04-0.4 W/(mK).

The higher the number, the more efficiently the substance can transfer thermal energy.

So glass conducts heat 44 times better than air.

BuildingScout

08-06-2010, 04:34 PM

You could sandwich 10 feet of air between any substance and obtain similar performance,

No, you could not. It would make for a very dark and gloomy building if you tried that. Glass and glass alone allows you to create a ten foot gap while leting light through.

it's not very practical though and it's an incredible waste of space.

This is as much a waste of space as plumbing closets are a waste of space. It's all subjective.

Also if Europe, which is a lot more densely populated that North America (last I checked) can afford to do it, why can't we? Say building flat parking lots is an efficient use of space, but creating nice and airy atria that substantially reduce energy consumption isn't?

Urbanomicon

08-06-2010, 06:38 PM

No, you could not. It would make for a very dark and ready building if you tried that. Glass and glass alone allows you to create a ten foot gap while leting light through.

I made no mention of glass's light transmitting properties, I was referring only to its thermal conductivity. Lexan or Polycarbonate (Plexiglass) would do the same job and both have a lower thermal conductivity than glass.

This is as much a waste of space as plumbing closets are a waste of space. It's all subjective.

Plumbing closets are comparatively very small relative to all glass towers or atria with 10 foot air buffers. They are also a functional requirement of the structure. Having glass on all walls is not. It is aesthetic only.

Also if Europe, which is a lot more densely populated that North America (last I checked) can afford to do it, why can't we? Say building flat parking lots is an efficient use of space, but creating nice and airy atria that substantially reduce energy consumption isn't?

These all glass atria would have tremendous cooling loads due to the sun shining directly in them all summer, and cooling is far less efficient and more expensive than heating. An air conditioner runs on electricity and is only about 30% efficient. Heating is generally done through very cheap natural gas and is 90%-95% efficient.

As for the costs involved, no one said it was overly expensive to do, I said it was not very practical for space reasons.

jay

08-06-2010, 06:51 PM

We should bring the conversation back to the42. This is getting off topic.

We can make another thread to discuss building architecture and the pro's and con's of different building materials.

Urbanomicon

08-07-2010, 12:36 AM

We should bring the conversation back to the42. This is getting off topic.

We can make another thread to discuss building architecture and the pro's and con's of different building materials.

I think the off topic discussion is done now. But if it continues I'll move the posts into a new thread.

Sampson

08-25-2010, 02:36 PM

Have any Wonderful Waterloo members bought in this project?

I have. Looking forward to it. Living with the inlaws atm, so I can't wait! I recently sold my house near margaret/guelph after a 4 year stay. We wanted to try out something in the uptown area.

Spokes

08-25-2010, 02:59 PM

I have. Looking forward to it. Living with the inlaws atm, so I can't wait! I recently sold my house near margaret/guelph after a 4 year stay. We wanted to try out something in the uptown area.

You must be really excited!! And Welcome to Wonderful Waterloo!

Hopefully you'll keep us up to date on the process? As well as getting involved in the rest of the site!

Still_Thinking

08-25-2010, 03:27 PM

Sampson

08-25-2010, 03:28 PM

You must be really excited!! And Welcome to Wonderful Waterloo!

Hopefully you'll keep us up to date on the process? As well as getting involved in the rest of the site!

Thanks!

I can tell you they sent out a letter a while back notifying us of a Decemeber 15th occupancy date. I will post other bits of news/infos as I get them.

Sampson

08-25-2010, 04:55 PM

Nice! What type of unit did you purchase?

I purchased a 2bed + den unit. What I liked about Momentum was their flexibility. I was able to make some large change to the way the unit was design. I've looked at other places in the past and they weren't willing to budge with layout changes.

Sampson

09-01-2010, 11:34 AM

This month the 42 will have window and brick work started. Been waiting for what seems like forever to see some exterior changes.

Also they are almost up to the 5th floor with the framing of the units.

Floor2012

09-01-2010, 09:04 PM

I purchased a 2bed + den unit. What I liked about Momentum was their flexibility. I was able to make some large change to the way the unit was design. I've looked at other places in the past and they weren't willing to budge with layout changes.

Making changes to floorplans is rare. Did they charge you much extra?

Sampson

09-03-2010, 09:31 AM

Making changes to floorplans is rare. Did they charge you much extra?

I think it was $200.

UrbanWaterloo

09-13-2010, 07:01 AM

September 10, 2010

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20September%2010%2C%202010%20-%201%20Resized.JPG

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20September%2010%2C%202010%20-%202%20Resized.JPG

Brick Has Arrived
http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20September%2010%2C%202010%20-%204%20Resized.JPG

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20September%2010%2C%202010%20-%205%20Resized.JPG

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20September%2010%2C%202010%20-%203%20Resized.JPG

Matt2727

09-13-2010, 09:31 AM

wow looks great so far. cant wait for the brick and glass to be installed

Sampson

09-20-2010, 01:10 PM

They started installing the glass on the 2nd floor in about 4-5 units. I don't have anywhere to host images, or I would.

UrbanWaterloo

09-21-2010, 07:24 AM

Here's the glass Sampson mentioned. Feel free to add images as attachments to a post.

September 20, 2010

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20September%2020%2C%202010%20-%201%20Resized.JPG

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20September%2020%2C%202010%20-%202%20Resized.JPG

jay

09-23-2010, 09:32 PM

Have they secured any leases for the retail spots other than Sunlife?

UrbanWaterloo

10-07-2010, 07:12 AM

October 5, 2010

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20October%206%2C%202010%20-%202%20Resized.JPG

jay

10-07-2010, 08:26 AM

Starting to look really sharp..Big fan of this building.

UrbanWaterloo

10-08-2010, 08:49 AM

Usually I wouldn't update photos again so shortly after the last time, but I was able to get a shot of the bricked side yesterday.

October 7, 2010

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20October%207%2C%202010%20-%201a%20Resized.JPG

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20October%207%2C%202010%20-%202%20Resized.JPG

SP!RE

10-08-2010, 09:12 AM

Such a great addition to Uptown... really sets a precedent for contemporary, Toronto-inspired architecture for our city. :)

Spokes

10-17-2010, 12:25 PM

Have they secured any leases for the retail spots other than Sunlife?

Sunlife is using one of the retail spots? Small office space?

UrbanWaterloo

10-17-2010, 06:57 PM

Sunlife is using one of the retail spots? Small office space?

Yes, they have the corner retail unit at Bridgeport & Peppler. A few employees from the Bridgeport Plaza (Sobeys/Zellers) office will be relocating here. I haven't heard of any other tenants yet.

Sampson

10-19-2010, 04:07 PM

Hey UrbanWaterloo,

Are you planning on grabbing some more pics? I know the back of the building is starting to look really nice with the all the brick work. Your pix are nice quality. No pressure! :D

FancyNancy

10-19-2010, 09:40 PM

Back of the 42 Pics - October 19, 2010

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SP!RE

10-19-2010, 11:44 PM

Thanks Fancy Nancy... updates are great. So great to see the42 this far along-- I love this project for so many reasons.

Sampson

10-29-2010, 03:34 PM

101

Here's a photo from this morning. They are flying through the bricks on the east side and bridgeport side since they started it this week.

UrbanWaterloo

10-29-2010, 04:58 PM

Glad to see the bricking is coming along so quickly. I really like how the Bridgeport/Peppler corner is starting to look, thanks for the update! To answer your previous question, yes I'll be taking more photos of construction. :RpS_cool:

myfaceisonfire

10-29-2010, 07:46 PM

This building is going to look phenomenal. What a great addition to uptown. The brick works perfectly and the glass windows on the sides are bigger than I expected.

SP!RE

11-02-2010, 09:25 AM

Spokes

11-02-2010, 09:55 AM

I thought the brick was going to be more dark red with coloured concrete between, like the shops on Willis Way that are made of red brick.

Not sure how I feel about antique-looking brick on a modernist structure with those opaque window panels, but I'll have to see it again in person when it's done to judge.

It's still looking great, of course :)

I thought they were going to go that way too, but you know what, this looks really good too, and isn't THAT much of a difference.

Maybe they got a deal on buying a boat load of brick at once because it looks like the same stuff they used at BPR Lofts hah.

UrbanWaterloo

11-08-2010, 11:10 AM

November 7, 2010

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20November%207,%202010%20-%201b%20Resized.jpg

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20November%207,%202010%20-%202a%20Resized.jpg

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20November%207,%202010%20-%204b%20Resized.jpg

SP!RE

11-08-2010, 02:33 PM

In that lighting the brick certainly does look red and makes me very happy :).

What a handsome little neo-modernist block :).

RangersFan

11-27-2010, 06:01 PM

Great shots Duke, keep them coming its great to see this project coming together.

SP!RE

11-28-2010, 02:19 AM

Thanks so much for these photos! Great update.

I really love every aspect of this project... I love the brick, the spandrel glass colour, the massing, the views, location, etc. So nice to see something like this Uptown, and hopefully it's setting a new standard for the area!

UrbanWaterloo

11-28-2010, 09:39 AM

The finished balconies (tiling instead of bare concrete) add a nice touch. Thanks for the update!

jay

11-28-2010, 09:56 AM

It's not the tiling they used at Bauer is it?

panamaniac

11-28-2010, 11:21 AM

It would be great to see more mid-rise condo development of this calibre both Uptown and Downtown.

Sampson

11-29-2010, 03:22 PM

The finished balconies (tiling instead of bare concrete) add a nice touch. Thanks for the update!

Is there a post I missed? What are you referring to? I don't see any new photos.

Duke-of-Waterloo

11-29-2010, 04:38 PM

Is there a post I missed? What are you referring to? I don't see any new photos.

There were technical difficulties with a post this weekend. Hopefully more pictures, including ones showing the balconies will be uploaded soon!

The balconies are beginning to have their railings installed. They look quite good! :RpS_smile:

ViewFromThe42

12-14-2010, 09:31 AM

A bit frustrating that there have been so many delays in the project, but understandable given its proximity to the creek. I have lived through some of the flooding that can happen on rainy days. Will be very glad to move up the street late January, if indeed these are the final delays.

jay

12-14-2010, 03:08 PM

Late January?. If you talking about January 2011, I doubt that will happen. I could see it happening in the Spring.

guyingta

12-17-2010, 12:21 PM

There were technical difficulties with a post this weekend. Hopefully more pictures, including ones showing the balconies will be uploaded soon!

The balconies are beginning to have their railings installed. They look quite good! :RpS_smile:

Hi Duke, Any chance you can post the photos? Thank you

ViewFromThe42

12-17-2010, 02:17 PM

The developer said late January, but I am also skeptical of that timeline. I have a father with 30 years in the developer business, and based on my report of half the floors not having glass, and only just seeing drywall in mine, he expects September 2011. Which could make things interesting, given the last month's notice I gave for end of December, though we've been allowed a one-month extension so far.

benjaminbach

12-17-2010, 11:39 PM

Which could make things interesting, given the last month's notice I gave for end of December, though we've been allowed a one-month extension so far.
If you need a short term rental, DM me. There are a few options around town

panamaniac

12-18-2010, 07:11 AM

Sometimes PM is the better option .....

UrbanWaterloo

12-26-2010, 09:11 AM

Windows are now on the 5th floor...

December 25, 2010

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20December%2025,%202010%20-%201%20Resized.jpg

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20December%2025,%202010%20-%202%20Resized.jpg

benjaminbach

12-27-2010, 07:43 AM

That's a good looking building!

Spokes

12-27-2010, 09:24 AM

Is there a timeline for when the whole building is enclosed?

Matt2727

12-27-2010, 06:15 PM

looks great! whats with the light blue windows? is it some kind of plastic protection?

metropolis

12-28-2010, 11:04 AM

benjaminbach

01-02-2011, 01:14 PM

The mechanical rooms on the roof of this thing are incredibly large, I mean the one is likely adding more than a floor in terms of height and looks like it takes up at least a quarter of the building's roof. Its much larger than those of surrounding appartment buildings. Anyone know why that may be as it is completely ruining the look of the building from far away?

Is it really that much larger than other new buildings? Bauer has a large mechanical room on it's roof that is visible, as do most new apartment/condo buildings going up.

It may be more noticeable here because the building height is lower

jay

01-02-2011, 02:13 PM

Spokes

01-02-2011, 02:16 PM

Too me it doesn't look any larger than any other development like Benjamin said. I have a pretty good view of the building from my place and yes I can see it but it doesn't look huge. I'm not sure what you could do to conceal it without taking away from it's operation/repair access. I suppose you could clad it with a nicer finish such as brick or stucco.

You could put some kind of wall up around the roof that's designed to fit with the building, that way it's still all open aired and you'd get good access to it. It's got to be common practice if you think about all of the buildings with "non-boring" roofs.

benjaminbach

01-02-2011, 03:28 PM

extra construction means either a) higher unit costs or b) lower developer profits. I don't see either being an appealing option for a small issue

metropolis

01-03-2011, 12:19 AM

Looking at this thing from my office in the Marsland Centre the mechanical here does seem unusually large or maybe just tall and the cladding especially cheap given the higher than average qual of the rest of the exterior finish.

Watching for these sort of seemingly "small issue" details can be an indicator of greater problems down the road. In this case for example the developer a) didn't look at the details and/or b) gave into cost cutting pressures. Were either of these points to be applied against other parts of the project ie. unit finish, plumbing, etc. etc. they would by no means be considered trivial.

Fearing this may be the case and having no way of knowing for sure may make some think twice about purchasing here or even from this builder on upcoming projects. Small issue or not it pays to watch for details (and perhaps to pay that wee bit extra), whether you're the builder or buyer.

UrbanWaterloo

01-14-2011, 09:06 AM

Windows are now on the 6th floor...

January 13, 2011

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20January%2013,%202011%20Resized.JPG

Spokes

01-14-2011, 09:58 AM

jay

01-14-2011, 10:22 AM

Is the blue the final colour? It doesn't look like it does in the rendering as that looks like a more subtle greenish, where as this really stands out. Waiting for it to be done before I make any judgements though. (I still love the project though for the record.)

I was thinking the same thing... It could be a protective layer over the material, which is the greenish colour.

Spokes

01-14-2011, 10:24 AM

I was thinking the same thing... It could be a protective layer over the material, which is the greenish colour.

Like that protective blue film on stainless steel fridges ;)

UrbanWaterloo

01-14-2011, 11:10 AM

The blue is just a protective film on the windows. If you look at the red bricked section, you'll notice how some units already have it (or most of it) removed.

ViewFromThe42

01-14-2011, 02:10 PM

Notice the middle of the 6th floor window set: a window is missing. I think it was broken. I assume the pane is being ordered as cheaper to replace than the entire window block set, but I also hope that having it installed here rather than built with the window set will not lead to problems for that unit down the road.

This morning, workers were putting up framing for the windows on the commercial 1st floor. Every night, a few units have lights on due to work (such as K2). Hoping that the unit I'll be moving into is getting some done soon: supposed to be ready in a month, but I see no lights on there at night. Makes me wonder if certain units are moving faster than planned for any particular reason.

jay

01-14-2011, 03:11 PM

Sampson

01-17-2011, 10:50 AM

Floors 4-5 I believe have a date of March 7th for occupancy. I don't believe that's possible, but I do hope I can move in by May 1st. That would be nice.

ViewFromThe42

01-17-2011, 11:37 AM

I may not want to be rushed, but at the same time I currently live in an apartment where water temperature control is nonexistent, appliances are breaking, mice are finding a new entry to on a daily basis. That is not conducive to a university term in a professional program, and the constant now-later-now-later back and forth with move in dates definitely affects my plans and sanity.

jay

01-17-2011, 01:26 PM

Miggy

01-19-2011, 09:19 PM

Spokes

01-19-2011, 10:44 PM

The blue sections are called spandrel panels. The blue is the actual finish I believe. They are used to hide mechanical equipment/structural components/insulation/ceilings from being seen from the exterior.

Thanks for the info, and welcome to Wonderful Waterloo!

I really hope you're wrong, as the blue isn't the best looking. Fingers crossed on this one.

ViewFromThe42

01-20-2011, 08:17 AM

I am more curious to see what it will look like in the context of no more construction setup, with landscaping done and the vibrancy of tenants above and business on the ground floor. Either way, I'd take a slightly less than personally ideal shade of blue over another faceless concrete pillar.

johnba

01-20-2011, 08:52 AM

I really hope you're wrong, as the blue isn't the best looking. Fingers crossed on this one.

I personally like the spandrel. I've seen buildlings with lots of spandrel go up in the past, and they don't look "right" until the entire structure is complete... my concern is the brick. Are they bringing the brick people back on site? It doesn't look finished.

Spokes

01-20-2011, 09:13 AM

I personally like the spandrel. I've seen buildlings with lots of spandrel go up in the past, and they don't look "right" until the entire structure is complete... my concern is the brick. Are they bringing the brick people back on site? It doesn't look finished.

Ya maybe you're right. Ill hold off on judgement then.

myfaceisonfire

01-20-2011, 09:13 AM

The blue sections are called spandrel panels. The blue is the actual finish I believe. They are used to hide mechanical equipment/structural components/insulation/ceilings from being seen from the exterior.

Yes, the blue spandrels are permanent,they are there for the exact reasons you mentioned.

UrbanWaterloo

01-24-2011, 10:18 AM

Section ThirtyOne

01-24-2011, 11:13 AM

It's starting to look better, however the funky shell still reminds me of a 'Perimeter Institute of Condos'. Some units have almost no blue, whereas others have a heavy two panels (western Bridgeport units). The northern windows on the 2nd/3rd floor of the western side are just slivers, whereas the 5th floor is wide open. It took me at least a year to get used to the Perimeter Institute's design, which I'm now fond of, so it might just be a matter of time to get used to the42's exterior as well.

Retail Update: a hairdresser and a loft furniture store will be joining the previously announced Sun Life & Momentum offices.

January 21, 2011

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20January%2021,%202011%20-%201%20Resized.jpg

[img]http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20January%2021,%202011%20-%202%20Resized.jpg[/ig]

Thanks for the pics!

Yes, the design will take some getting used to. It's very different from the stucco monoliths we're used to seeing around here. I also agree that the heavy use of spandrels on the western units is strange... makes you wonder why they used glass at all? Folks who bought those top floor units are going to be pleased though, they are going to be beautiful with all the natural light. I believe a WW member bought one of those? Hopefully he/she will share some pics when complete.

Spokes

01-24-2011, 04:40 PM

Retail Update: a hairdresser and a loft furniture store will be joining the previously announced Sun Life & Momentum offices.

Thanks for the update. Is this going to be Momentum's head office?

Loft furnature store...Awesome! This region is desprate for one.

Duke-of-Waterloo

01-24-2011, 04:42 PM

Loft furnature store...Awesome! This region is desprate for one.

Wouldn't Schreiters (http://www.schreitershome.ca/) classify as one? They have a special Loft@27 section (http://www.schreitershome.ca/loftLiving.html).

Spokes

01-24-2011, 05:01 PM

Wouldn't Schreiters (http://www.schreitershome.ca/) classify as one? They have a special Loft@27 section (http://www.schreitershome.ca/loftLiving.html).

You're absolutely right, I completely forgot about them. Really nice stuff, but very pricey.

Structube also has some good stuff.

jay

01-24-2011, 05:58 PM

Schreiters isn't as expensive as everyone thinks. Sure there is expensive higher end furniture, but I furnished my whole loft from them for a fair price.

Plus I doubt this place in the42 will be cheaper than Schreiters unless it's a chain with a good supply base, but I may be wrong :)

FancyNancy

01-24-2011, 06:21 PM

The unit in the 42 can't be very large for a furniture store. Maybe it will be some furniture and a catalog to order from. Schreiters has some nice furniture but it is not everyone's taste. It will be nice to have another place to shop. :RpS_smile:

ViewFromThe42

02-06-2011, 10:30 AM

Now that it's not just a move in date scheduled for the end of the month, but the pre-delivery inspection scheduled as well, I think it might finally happen. The wooden walls should be coming down soon once the front level is fully closed and lockable. Now the last bits of packing can finally begin.

Spokes

02-06-2011, 10:41 AM

The blue sections are called spandrel panels. The blue is the actual finish I believe. They are used to hide mechanical equipment/structural components/insulation/ceilings from being seen from the exterior.

I've heard from someone in the know that the blue will not be staying.

jay

02-06-2011, 10:44 AM

I'm glad to hear that :). I'm not a fan of the blue

benjaminbach

02-06-2011, 11:15 AM

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20January%2021,%202011%20-%202%20Resized.jpg[/CENTER]
I'll bet cash that the blue isn't staying as pictured. Look at the blue covering the 4 windows on the red brick end - those will be windows.

ViewFromThe42

02-06-2011, 11:32 AM

Actually, as for those four blue windows, they will not be windows, though I can't speak to the colour. I walk past the 42 every day, and was there before the blue windows went in. It seems that those owners chose not to have those windows in their units, hence why I saw drywall covering them from the inside. Future owners would have an easier time converting them than trying to dream of new windows, but those four do not exist as windows from the inside perspective, from what I've seen during construction.

benjaminbach

02-06-2011, 11:46 AM

I may stand corrected (so I retract my offer of a cash bet!).
If there are in fact owners who have chosen not to have the same number of windows in their units, I hope they put them in before selling.

Buying a unit without windows from a floorplan is MUCH different than walking through a unit without enough light.

Duke-of-Waterloo

02-06-2011, 12:29 PM

I'll bet cash that the blue isn't staying as pictured. Look at the blue covering the 4 windows on the red brick end - those will be windows.

Good observation. Either way.

Sampson

02-07-2011, 09:36 AM

I actually own one of the units and asked them about the blue. It will in fact be staying blue. This is for sure.

benjaminbach

02-07-2011, 09:40 AM

I actually own one of the units and asked them about the blue. It will in fact be staying blue. This is for sure.

I stand corrected (and disappointed)

ViewFromThe42

02-07-2011, 10:08 AM

I am personally quite pleased to see something different walking around town. It's one thing to have condo developments, a positive, but another step to make them have their own unique look and feel. I definitely want to see the finished product, especially the decorative windows on the western side of the south face, and hope that a unique character business will wind up on the commercial first floor. Three more weeks!

jay

02-07-2011, 10:36 AM

It's nice to see something different, but that blue looks out of place. Maybe it will grow on me, but I doubt it.

I'll hold off judgement until it's 100% finished. These things happen in new condo designs. I remember when Bauer was being built they put up those ugly grey panels on the Allen St side of Vinzenco's that look cheap and retarded. Windows or something else should have been used, but wasn't.

Spokes

02-07-2011, 11:50 AM

van Hemessen

02-07-2011, 08:37 PM

I was at first skeptical about the blue box on top of the AGO (Toronto), but it has since grown on me. I'll wait and give these blue windows a chance.

BuildingScout

02-07-2011, 09:01 PM

I'll wait and give these blue windows a chance.

Me too. My biggest fear actually is that they will date the building in a bad way. That thirty years from now we'll roll our eyes and say "Ugh those windows are so 2010".

benjaminbach

02-07-2011, 09:17 PM

Me too. My biggest fear actually is that they will date the building in a bad way. That thirty years from now we'll roll our eyes and say "Ugh those windows are so 2010".

Everytime I drive by the Sears at Fairview I think "That was good looking design once?"

BuildingScout

02-07-2011, 09:38 PM

Everytime I drive by the Sears at Fairview I think "That was good looking design once?"

Oh gawd, that is such an ugly and dated building.

There are dated styles that are now quaint and nice in their own way, and there are others where all one can say is "what were we thinking?". Among them are most of those low to the ground golden proportion rectangles from the 60's which didn't survive well the passage of time, including some very famous buildings (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsn_foo/4129203536/).

DHLawrence

02-07-2011, 11:53 PM

I can forgive the exterior as long as they get rid of that weird smell inside.

UrbanWaterloo

02-09-2011, 07:01 PM

February 5, 2011

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20February%205,%202011%20-%201a%20Resized.jpg

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20February%205,%202011%20-%202%20Resized.jpg

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20February%205,%202011%20-%203%20Resized.jpg

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20February%205,%202011%20-%204%20Resized.jpg

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20February%205,%202011%20-%205%20Resized.jpg

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20February%205,%202011%20-%206%20Resized.jpg

ViewFromThe42

02-17-2011, 01:51 PM

Any other buyers get an "interesting" email today?

Spokes

02-17-2011, 03:07 PM

Any other buyers get an "interesting" email today?

Well you've got my attention....

ViewFromThe42

02-17-2011, 03:28 PM

The "interesting" part is that while our things can move in as planned before month's end, we people must wait a bit longer still.

Urbanomicon

02-17-2011, 03:48 PM

The "interesting" part is that while our things can move in as planned before month's end, we people must wait a bit longer still.

My guess is that they are still waiting on getting an occupancy permit. Or some key utilities are not yet operational.

ViewFromThe42

02-17-2011, 03:49 PM

The former, I'm told, though no word as to how long that takes or what remains to be accomplished before it can come to be.

jay

02-17-2011, 03:56 PM

Can't say I'm surprised. The building isn't finished yet enough to get a occupancy permit. Developers always do this, giving false hope. It'll be awhile still before occupancy happens.

Shawn

02-17-2011, 05:02 PM

Optimus Prime

02-17-2011, 09:24 PM

So until this occupancy permit gets issued it's a glorified storage unit for your furniture and belongings?

It's odd they would even suggest that, but I guess if you have ordered new furniture and have a delivery date agreed upon, it would be an alternative to re-scheduling delivery or having to move it twice.

I agree. It is odd that they would suggest that. Iam not sure your property insurance would cover anything you put in the unit while the developer still hasnt handed over occupancy of the unit.

Its something owners might want to consider/review your property insurance coverage/contract prior to storing anything within your units.

FancyNancy

02-26-2011, 06:54 AM

I am going to have to check my emails and see what you are all talking about. I still haven't received a letter in the mail changing my move in date from March 7th. Whats up? I am also still missing a window in one of the bedrooms. I don't think I would be moving in any furniture now I would rather wait until the building is completed!:RpS_rolleyes:

ViewFromThe42

02-26-2011, 09:05 AM

PDI in an hour, so we will see what is going on. Granted, it will only be non-human furnishings moving in tomorrow, they still need the occupancy permit, which needs the exterior closed off.

ViewFromThe42

02-26-2011, 10:43 PM

Looks beautiful in the unit. Still some details of the minor variety to take care of, which makes staying in a hotel for a week or so not the worst. Plenty still to be done for others by the look of things, on upper levels we got a peek at. Seems that at least 4 other units are also in our boat, of being temporarily homeless.

Section ThirtyOne

03-01-2011, 03:13 PM

Out of curiousity (and never have had been in the situation before), does the developer cover your hotel costs in the interim? Or are you expected to pay for this?

ViewFromThe42

03-01-2011, 03:50 PM

My understanding of the situation is that they have insurance against delays that delay lawyer-served occupancy dates, which covers such things. I believe they are still waiting for delivery of the materials necessary to seal the building completely, which should allow the city to grant an occupancy permit. I think there are at least five units whose owners are in this temporary residence limbo.

jay

03-01-2011, 05:50 PM

It's a pain in the ass to try to get money back from the developer. I got some "rewards" out of my situation, but getting them to cover costs is a pain. Although I didn't have a lease at the time so I wasn't out cash.

People shouldn't ever take the developers word on when occupancy will happen. They always lie and delay and knowing advertise unrealistic occupancy dates. They do this to sell units and it's easier to tell someone who is asking about occupancy that it will be ready in 3 months than telling them it will be a over a year. I dealt with something similar, but I had a better living arrangement. My advice to everyone who is buying a condo is never break a lease until you are in the unit. It's better than the alternative.

Sampson

03-03-2011, 04:59 PM

I had a site tour yesterday. I saw a couple mostly done units. They look really great! It's exciting. It's coming along nicely.

My unit isn't even framed yet, and will probably be one of the last one's complete. Likely a mid-April move in. It was pretty cool to be up there and see the view and how the glass looks from the inside.

ViewFromThe42

03-03-2011, 06:25 PM

Hopefully you did not see ours, packed with our belongings as it awaits occupancy permits. If it all fits, I will be supremely impressed.

I'm told by my fiance that they have done the hallways, and that our doors are being put in, one of the last things needing any attention in our place.

FancyNancy

03-07-2011, 09:20 PM

We went through our unit on Saturday. It doesn't have drywall yet. The building seems to be coming together. Not sure about the green walls in the hall ad light coloured doors.

Sampson

03-08-2011, 09:17 AM

For some reason I didn't mind the green hallways.

stressfree

03-08-2011, 09:33 AM

The green should look good with the light birch/maple apartment doors. Those doors are still the doors they're using right?

ViewFromThe42

03-08-2011, 09:50 AM

They are indeed light coloured doors. You must have a good view if none of your drywall is up! We just need the concrete heaters on the underside of the first residential level to be closed in (last I saw the framing for the Bridgeport side was there) and we'll be able to get out of the motel and into our unit.

Sampson

03-09-2011, 10:08 AM

ViewFromThe42

03-09-2011, 12:21 PM

Not daily, no, but we do get quick responses whenever we ask for an update, and we don't go too long without asking for one before they provide one on their own.

Waterlooian4Life

03-09-2011, 12:53 PM

Hey All, would it be possible to get some updated pictures of this project. My posting has dwindled lately as I have actually moved to Calgary to do My Masters degree, but I do enjoy checking up on how things are going in the Loo. Also if anyone would be willing to post some pic's of the PI institute and the Stork YMCA that would be fantastic.

SP!RE

03-09-2011, 06:06 PM

Also if anyone would be willing to post some pic's of the PI institute and the Stork YMCA that would be fantastic.

Seconded!

UrbanWaterloo

03-14-2011, 07:09 PM

With a bunch of owners in this building, it sounds like the42 will be the perfect place for our summer meet-up. :cool:

Re Photos: During the winter I tend to hibernate and don't take as many. Today the weather was absolutely amazing and you could feel spring is on it's way! I hopped on my bike this afternoon and cycled around half the City of Waterloo (PI/YMCA pics to come). Below is the update for this project.

March 14, 2011

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20March%2014,%202011%20-%201%20Resized.jpg

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20March%2014,%202011%20-%202c%20Resized.jpg

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20March%2014,%202011%20-%203a%20Resized.jpg

ViewFromThe42

03-14-2011, 08:29 PM

WUD

03-14-2011, 10:53 PM

The close up shot shows the soffit, with the pink insulation peeking through. Currently, it wraps around the south and east sides. Once it has wrapped around the north side as well, and all of it has been covered, occupancy permits can be granted (so I'm told). My fiance and I are both looking forward to ending our now two-week stay at a mhotel with those permits.

In my experience from BPR, you have to multiply any timeline they give you by 3 or 4 to get a reasonable estimate of when they'll finish something. :RpS_unsure:

I have no idea about these things, but won't they need to seal up all the windows on the 6th floor before occupancy?

BigCityBoy

03-17-2011, 11:24 PM

I believe you are able to store furniture and such in your unit if it is complete and you are waiting for occupancy only...not sure if that helps your motel situation.

BigCityBoy

03-17-2011, 11:29 PM

ViewFromThe42

03-18-2011, 12:31 AM

plam

03-18-2011, 01:13 AM

Our things are in the unit, and we in a motel.

Maybe at some point I'll want isolation, but right now I want to feel a part of the city. I'm under no delusion that I have privacy on the balcony. I also have nothing to shelter from a bit of traffic flowing by, rarely stopped by the Peppler crosswalk. I miss moments I can only recall from my youth, when people seemed more open and community minded. Suburbia these days seems as closed and isolated as an island, only without any real privacy; I am not looking for that in Uptown.

+1; I would welcome more people walking by outside where I am, but there's not any real reason for people to do so.

Suburbia is not quite as isolated as you want when your neighbours make noise complaints about you having people on your BBQ on your deck at 9pm, which I've heard has happened to people in our fine city.

Mind you, I'd be a bit concerned about people outside at City Centre, where it seems like it might get rowdy at night, given its location.

panamaniac

03-18-2011, 08:05 AM

Not to be negative but won't it be lovely to sit on your balcony and be observed by everone waiting for the lights on Bridgeport? This is not directed at the 42 only - the same thing will be happening at the Westmount Grand. I guess my point is that you inevitably lose something when your condo does not extend to 20+ stories and is located directly next to a major connector / arterial road.

A puzzling comment. How much different would this be from sitting out in the evening on your front porch - something that was quite common when we still had "neighbourhoods". Why would there be any expectation of privacy on a balcony (what are you planning to do out there, anyway :RpS_tongue: )?

fin2limb

03-18-2011, 09:47 AM

Not to be negative but won't it be lovely to sit on your balcony and be observed by everone waiting for the lights on Bridgeport? This is not directed at the 42 only - the same thing will be happening at the Westmount Grand. I guess my point is that you inevitably lose something when your condo does not extend to 20+ stories and is located directly next to a major connector / arterial road.

Oh c'mon. Most people like to sit out on their balconies, have a drink, a conversation, read the paper, surf the net on the lap top, ipad etc... So what if people from the road can see you doing these things. Unless you're an avid nudist or have something to hide, I don't really see any real privacy issues here.

stressfree

03-18-2011, 09:57 AM

Very true, but it will be nice when we can see people in this building!

I'm curious how the front of the building will be landscaped and also how the common patio will look like.

metropolis

03-18-2011, 11:33 AM

Mind you, I'd be a bit concerned about people outside at City Centre, where it seems like it might get rowdy at night, given its location.

If you think people are less likely to purchase in a rowdy area look no further than King St. West in Toronto to see an example to the contrary. A huge section of the street is party central (http://www.torontolife.com/daily/informer/from-print-edition-informer/2011/02/09/king-state-of-mind-when-did-the-once-cool-king-west-strip-descend-into-a-mess-of-stretch-hummers-drunken-bachelorettes-and-last-call-brawls/)and this is where the biggest condo boom in Toronto, if not North America is happening right now. Besides, close the windows and assuming they're at least semi decent you should have no issues.

I stayed at the Thomson just a couple of weeks ago right in the middle of the action and can't say I had any issues with noise. I did have some great food and met some interesting people in the couple of days though, including a guy who is setting up a solar panel operation out of Italy here in Ontario. Another day I got lucky being seated at a table next to Andrea Bargnani of the Toronto Raptors. I'm sure both these things were a little less likely to happen had I stayed at the Garden Inn by the airport and eaten at my Neighborhood Kelsey's instead.

There is something about a vibrant urban environment that makes giving up a smidgeon of privacy worthwhile. We can only dream the42 and Momentum are at the iceberg’s tip like Peter Freed (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto/globe-to/peter-freed-the-man-who-made-king-street-west/article1939372/)was with King West only a few years ago.

WUD

03-18-2011, 05:50 PM

I prefer a view/balcony overlooking active street life. Jane Jacobs put it best when she wrote that as humans, the animal we're most interested in is other humans. People watching is fun, and doing so from your balcony makes you feel part of a community.

Bridgeport doesn't have a vibrant feel to it yet, but I hope it will in several years. The42 is a step towards that.

FancyNancy

03-19-2011, 06:12 AM

Having downsized from a house, a major feature for me was to have a balcony. The larger the better! If you want some privacy on the balancy, you can add a few plants/shrubs. I can't wait to get out there and bbq.

panamaniac

03-19-2011, 09:25 AM

Is bbq'ing on balconies allowed in Waterloo?

markster

03-19-2011, 09:53 AM

There's no law against it.

I lived in a rental apartment where the lease explicitly stated no BBQs on the balcony. But it's a reasonable request to make of students, who have a bad habit of destroying property.

jay

03-19-2011, 10:15 AM

City of Waterloo's fire dept won't allow propane bbq's on balcony's. Only electric.

I've looked into it and so has my condo corp.

ViewFromThe42

03-19-2011, 11:50 AM

I was confident balconies were not permitted, but terraces perhaps? I don't know the type, but there will be BBQing available for all residents on the common space terrace.

Spokes

03-19-2011, 12:17 PM

City of Waterloo's fire dept won't allow propane bbq's on balcony's. Only electric.

I've looked into it and so has my condo corp.

I believe Kitchener's the same way. I haven't heard of any that allow it.

Ottawa didn't either.

benjaminbach

03-19-2011, 12:25 PM

KevinL

03-19-2011, 02:59 PM

Indeed, it's simple physics; a propane leak could pool in that sort of confined space, and if it's ignited, there are major consequences.

Trogdor

03-19-2011, 03:29 PM

Are natural gas barbecues allowed? They don't face the same pooling issue propane does as NG is lighter than air.

I have never thought about BBQ restrictions on balconies in condos before. That's actually a huge detractor for me because I love barbecuing. It's my method of cooking for at least half my meals!

jay

03-19-2011, 03:39 PM

Most condo's have a common area BBQ that is natural gas. Bauer has on on the 4th floor and Kaufman has one on the rooftop (6th floor).

panamaniac

03-19-2011, 07:28 PM

FancyNancy

03-19-2011, 10:30 PM

ViewFromThe42

03-20-2011, 12:23 AM

No occupancy permits yet, most likely you saw someone moving things in, or working on a unit. First occupancy is currently expected mid-week.

WUD

03-20-2011, 01:26 AM

It was an option for the 5th and 6th floors to have gas hookups on the balcany and kitchen. I have opted for both.

I just drove by the 42 tonight and it seems as if all the windows are in! I also saw someone in one of the units. Not sure if they are just moving in furniture or actually living there now. Did they get the occupancy permit?

There are still a couple of windows missing on the 6th floor (two on the south side, there may be more, but I can't see them). The starting putting up the terrace dividers today.

You saw construction workers. They were working in a unit until about 9pm on a Saturday!

FancyNancy

03-27-2011, 08:11 PM

Any updates on the 42?

ViewFromThe42

03-28-2011, 10:03 AM

Several units are now occupied on the 2nd and 3rd floors (mine included). As for bigger completions or developments, none that I am aware of, but living in a motel for 26 days makes every change a good one.

jay

03-28-2011, 02:11 PM

Paying rent for 6-8 months until the building registers will suck though...

guyingta

03-30-2011, 03:22 PM

Have the builders given a date for when it will register? For a small building like this, shouldn't it be faster(3-4 months?). How much is the rent for a 2 bedroom like?

jay

03-30-2011, 09:26 PM

It's a percentage of the purchase price and it's kinda high... I think I paid around 700-800 when I moved into my Bauer unit and that was on mid 200's. I was lucky and only did it for 2 months.

It's anyones guess how long it will be, but it's usually at least 6 months and if your one of the first in you pay for the longest amount of time.

UrbanWaterloo

04-03-2011, 04:54 PM

March 30, 2011

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http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20March%2030,%202011%20-%205%20Resized.jpg

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20March%2030,%202011%20-%207c%20Resized.jpg

SP!RE

04-04-2011, 09:13 AM

I'm not at all a fan of how the retail is stepped up so much from sidewalk level, but otherwise this project is a great addition to Uptown! :)

metropolis

04-04-2011, 09:13 AM

I kinda dig it, though it looks only very slightly like the rendering at the top of the page :)

Section ThirtyOne

04-04-2011, 11:46 AM

Most condo's have a common area BBQ that is natural gas. Bauer has on on the 4th floor and Kaufman has one on the rooftop (6th floor).

Rooftop available here at Seagram's too. But I have my own (electric) as we have a terrace with our unit.

Section ThirtyOne

04-04-2011, 11:48 AM

And I was under the impression that the bylaws against grills on balconies had to do with open flame concerns... thus why charcoal grills are also not allowed.

FancyNancy

04-08-2011, 06:19 PM

Any new updates on the 42? How many condos are occupied? Just wondering if the outside doors also have screens so you can leave the door open?

UrbanWaterloo

04-12-2011, 11:22 AM

I heard another 8 units were occupied over the weekend, and up to the 4th floor now. :RpS_thumbup:

ViewFromThe42

04-12-2011, 12:42 PM

I thought I saw that as well. 2nd floor has been getting the floor and mid-wall trim in hallways. Drywall and insulation lifted up to the 5th/6th floors this morning.

UrbanWaterloo

04-18-2011, 07:50 AM

The lower floors are coming along quite well, hallways are mostly finished, and over half the units are occupied now. The penthouses are still a month and a half away though. Looks like we'll have to wait until the summer to have a WW Meet-Up here.

I can't help laughing a bit when I hear concrete is 'cool' again (cough UW Math (http://newsrelease.uwaterloo.ca/gallery/Our%20Campus/20030630_14.rgb.jpg.php) cough), but we decided to leave one of the walls exposed concrete. If it looks too out of place, it can always be painted or covered with slate stone.

April 15, 2011

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20April%2015,%202011%20-%201a%20Resized.jpg

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20April%2015,%202011%20-%202%20Resized.jpg

http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20April%2015,%202011%20-%204b%20Resized.jpg

Waterlooer

04-18-2011, 08:17 AM

People will live at the 42 right? A family member of mine keeps saying it's for office use only.

ViewFromThe42

04-18-2011, 08:24 AM

Haha yes, people will live there. The ground floor has five commercial units. Every floor above that is people's condos. That's where I am living right now.

BuildingScout

04-18-2011, 08:40 AM

I can't help laughing a bit when I hear concrete is 'cool' again (cough UW Math (http://newsrelease.uwaterloo.ca/gallery/Our%20Campus/20030630_14.rgb.jpg.php) cough), but we decided to leave one of the walls exposed concrete. If it looks too out of place, it can always be painted or covered with slate stone.

I come from a country where exposed concrete is used quite successfully. The trick is that we never really leave concrete exposed. What looks like exposed concrete is actually a slab of concrete with grey wash paint on top, which is reapplied generously once yearly on external surfaces. People in NorthAmerica often complain that concrete is "dirty" (e.g. Salk Institute): well for sure, if you never paint it.

FancyNancy

04-18-2011, 08:53 PM

The slate stone looked very nice as an accent wall. Exposed concrete floors looks great, but are really hard on the feet to be walking/standing on all the time.

UrbanWaterloo

05-10-2011, 09:26 AM

The wooden construction fence is down now...

May 9, 2011

http://wonderfulwaterloo.com/wdrive/Developments/Waterloo/Uptown/the42/the42%20-%20May%209,%202011%20-%201%20Resized.jpg

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