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FuturePhd
06-03-2011, 03:01 PM
Mayfair Hotel Redevelopment
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FuturePhd
06-03-2011, 03:01 PM
http://swo.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110603/downtown-kitchener-mayfair-redevelopment-110603/20110603/?hub=SWOHome
CTV Southwestern Ontario
Date: Friday Jun. 3, 2011 12:51 PM ET
Plans to develop and redevelop the Centre Block of downtown Kitchener have taken another step forward.
A Heritage Impact Assessment of the Mayfair Hotel is being made public Friday and by late next winter, development and redevelopment are expected to be underway.
That includes the conversion of the Mayfair Hotel at King and Young Streets, which will now be part of the first phase, not the third and final phase of the redevelopment.
Built around 1905 and converted to the Mayfair around 1929, it set to become a boutique hotel and restaurant.
Brampton-based developer Andrin Homes will reportedly maintain the historic exterior while renovating the interior.
Mark Pettigrew of the nearby Casablanca Bookshop says "I like the concept of preserving the retail buildings in the front and having lofts and offices above that, and then having residential high rises behind it, and that will help the downtown for sure."
Two condominium towers, 17 and 12 stories, are also planned beside and behind the Mayfair Hotel, along with other amenities.
FuturePhd
06-03-2011, 03:02 PM
I thought this seemed like exciting news!!
SP!RE
06-03-2011, 03:25 PM
Part of the first phase of the project now?!
Awesome... so glad to see that happen. We can't let this building or other pieces of history rot one day longer. :)
RangersFan
06-03-2011, 03:48 PM
Great to see, I am with Sp!re I am tired of seeing buildings of historic significance ignored. I really hope this project is a huge success.
KayDubya
06-03-2011, 04:38 PM
Great news! Could it be sales are going well enough at City Centre that it afforded them the opportunity to push this part of the project forward? This whole development is going to do wonders for downtown. It's exciting to think of the changes we'll see over the next 5 years or so.
mikeyp
06-03-2011, 05:53 PM
Here's an article from 570 news with a rendering of what the renovated building will look like.
http://www.570news.com/news/local/article/235499--mayfair-facelift-to-include-retail-component
RangersFan
06-03-2011, 06:25 PM
From the article mentioned above I like the part about a three story addition to bring the Mayfair hotel to a total of 9 stories. I am really excited to see what Downtown will look like in 5 years.
bcwessel
06-03-2011, 08:35 PM
Part of the first phase of the project now?!
Awesome... so glad to see that happen. We can't let this building or other pieces of history rot one day longer. :)
Not to mention that it fixes another piece of an increasingly attractive (and nearly continuous!) King St. frontage. Great news.
panamaniac
06-04-2011, 11:47 AM
I hadn't expected that more height would be added and in fact kind of wondered whether the existing three storey addition might not come off. I do like that the three new stories will be stepped back but the rendering makes the overall building look like a bit of a mash up. I hope it all comes together well. K-W has long had a desperate need for an upscale hotel so it this is it, it will be a great addition to Downtown.
mpd618
06-04-2011, 11:57 AM
I do like that the three new stories will be stepped back but the rendering makes the overall building look like a bit of a mash up.
You say that like it's a negative!
markster
06-04-2011, 12:47 PM
I tend to like mash-up buildings. Particularly with old restorations, it gives it a neat look.
I just think that they could step back the addition on the 4th-6th floors by about 8 feet, and that would get some really interesting terraces going.
fin2limb
06-04-2011, 06:56 PM
I can't see how anyone could complain about this. This is awesome news and great for downtown. It keeps on getting better.
Can't wait for the shovels to be in the ground.
panamaniac
06-05-2011, 09:31 AM
Well, I did say that I hope it all comes together well. I might not be here today if it weren't for the Mayfair Hotel - my father was living there when he met my mother (I won't tell you the year)! :RpS_smile:
smably
06-05-2011, 11:42 AM
I like this a lot. The Heritage Impact Assessment (http://icalendar.esolutionsgroup.ca/Public/GetDocument.ashx?DocumentId=26ccab62-1372-43a0-aedf-60f4859be2a5&IsShare=True) document contains a larger rendering of the project and some elevations, which I am linking to below because they are too large to post inline.
Street level rendering (http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/smably/mayfair_render.jpg)
Elevation diagram (http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/smably/mayfair_elevation.jpg)
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/smably/mayfair_render.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/smably/mayfair_elevation.jpg
panamaniac
06-05-2011, 11:54 AM
I can't see how anyone could complain about this. This is awesome news and great for downtown. It keeps on getting better.
Can't wait for the shovels to be in the ground.
The only complaints I could see might be from people who have purchased apartments that will now have their view blocked by the now-taller Mayfair.
The only complaints I could see might be from people who have purchased apartments that will now have their view blocked by the now-taller Mayfair.
i think a considerable increase in property value might help them get over it.
the skybar restaurant is a great idea. Can't wait for this to built.
UWaterloo
06-06-2011, 03:38 PM
LINK: http://www.therecord.com/news/local/article/542823--mayfair-hotel-to-be-transformed-into-boutique-hotel-spa
Mayfair Hotel to be transformed into boutique hotel, spa
Future for the Mayfair Hotel. Artist rendering of the transformed Mayfair Hotel. By Terry Pender, Record staff
June 3, 2011
KITCHENER — A Brampton-based developer is unveiling plans to transform two historic properties along King Street West — the Mayfair Hotel and the Hyman Hardware Building next door — into an upscale boutique hotel and spa.
Because of the historic significance of the properties Andrin Investments Limited will appear before Heritage Kitchener next Tuesday to explain the plans in detail.
Glass and steel additions will be built on top of the existing buildings, bringing the height to nine floors. The inside of both buildings will be completely rebuilt. Three floors will be added to the Mayfair Hotel at 11 Young St. Six floors to the building next door at 156-158 King St. west.
The proposed redevelopment plan calls for a speakeasy club in the basement and:
First floor — a restaurant, whisky bar, hotel lobby and pool.
Second floor — 13 suites plus a gym and yoga studio.
Third floor — 13 suites and the spa’s reception.
Fourth floor — 14 suites and the spa.
Fifth floor — 14 suites and office space.
Sixth floor — 14 suites and two conference rooms.
Seventh and Eight floors — 14 suites on each level.
Ninth floor — sky bar and restaurant.
Leon Bensason, the city’s head of cultural heritage planning, said the new floors will be contemporary and compliment the old architecture below.
“That can only be good news,” Bensason said.
Mark Pettigrew, who owns Casablanca Books a few doors down from the Mayfair Hotel, is happy to see some concrete plans for the redevelopment of the old buildings.
“I like it. It looks good and I am happy they are preserving the outside of the old buildings,” Pettigrew said.
Andrin has local partners for this phase of the redevelopment of Centre Block. Initially, the Mayfair Hotel and Hymann Hardware Building were to be redeveloped in the third and final phase, which could mean nothing would be finished on that corner for seven to 10 years.
In response to concerns about that timeline, Andrin said it would advance the redevelopment of the Mayfair if local partners could be found. It appears that is now the case although the identities of the local partners are not known.
In April 2009 the City of Kitchener and Andrin signed an ambitious development agreement for the western half of the block that is bounded by King, Young, Duke and Ontario streets.
The agreement calls for 397 condominiums in two buildings — a 17 storey building at Young and Duke streets and a 14 storey building on King Street West. Three podium buildings will be fronting on King, Young and Duke streets. A courtyard will be located in the centre of the development on top of a multi-level underground-parking garage. The city will own the top level with about 250 spaces.
A few months ago Andrin opened a sales office on King Street West for the condominiums. Other than to say sales are meeting expectations the developer has not been specific about pre-sales.
loveskitchener
06-09-2011, 02:45 PM
This sounds so exciting! Should be a great addition to the downtown core...I'm especially excited for the sky bar and restaurant!
thusenth
06-12-2011, 03:32 PM
This looks fantastic, I can't wait to see this develop!
loveskitchener
06-13-2011, 08:10 PM
Check out the latest Mayfair hotel video just released from City Centre's facebook!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiCKLjj8Pmk
RangersFan
06-14-2011, 05:21 AM
Pretty cool video, I am excited to see this vital block in Downtown get redeveloped I am hoping the transformation is sooner than later it seems like we have been talking/hearing about this development for some time now.
bcwessel
06-14-2011, 09:22 PM
benjaminbach is reporting that the Mayfair is being redeveloped in a partnership between Andrin and members of The Charcoal Group:
The Mayfair Hotel will be restored and expanded by a partnership of Andrin Homes (developing the rest of the block) and local businessmen David Strucke, Jodi Palubiski of Charcoal Group of Restaurants and Bernie Nimer of Ridgewood Holdings. Andrin Homes expects work to begin Spring 2012. . .The Charcoal Group of Restaurants is the very successful group behind Charcoals, Wildcraft, Bauer (http://www.benjaminbach.com/Bauer_Lofts_Waterloo) Kitchen, Martini’s and Del Dente’s. They are the premier restauranters in Waterloo Region, and having Jodi involved means that a terrific restaurant will be coming downtown to City Centre (http://www.benjaminbach.com/CityCentre).
If memory serves, having the Charcoal brand attached to The Bauer Lofts generated considerable interest during sales and construction of that development. With much speculation as to slower than expected initial sales for City Centre, hopefully the news of a Charcoal affiliate in the neighbourhood will provide a bit of surge for this crucial Downtown project.
benjaminbach
06-14-2011, 09:59 PM
@benjaminbach (http://www.wonderfulwaterloo.com/member.php?u=591) is reporting that the Mayfair is being redeveloped in a partnership between Andrin and members of The Charcoal Group:
If memory serves, having the Charcoal brand attached to The Bauer Lofts generated considerable interest during sales and construction of that development. With much speculation as to slower than expected initial sales for City Centre, hopefully the news of a Charcoal affiliate in the neighbourhood will provide a bit of surge for this crucial Downtown project. [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR]
Also of note, Bernie Nimer did the Shoppers next to City Hall, and the HSBC in Uptown Waterloo. He is a long time member of the downtown Kitchener BIA, and has been a big proponent of the Mayfair Hotel restoration for a couple of years now.
(http://www.benjaminbach.com/kitchener-waterloo/mayfair-hotel-kitchener-at-city-centre/)I think this will turn out to be a great property. I've toured through the Mayfair in it's current state, and this restoration is welcome news. As I say on my blog, I'm excited to see what Jodi of Charcoal Group does with the Sky Bar on the roof!
Link: Local Group Collaborates with Andrin on Mayfair Hotel Restoration (http://www.benjaminbach.com/kitchener-waterloo/mayfair-hotel-kitchener-at-city-centre/)
panamaniac
06-14-2011, 10:07 PM
The local connection may not be as necessary as it used to be, but it is still a big plus for many in K-W.
bcwessel
06-14-2011, 10:11 PM
The local connection may not be as necessary as it used to be, but it is still a big plus for many in K-W.
I'm not sure I understand your meaning. Can you elaborate a little bit?
panamaniac
06-15-2011, 09:53 AM
I was just reacting to your earlier comment about Charcoal Group sparking interest in the Bauer Lofts. KW is not like it once was, but there was a time when "local" was perceived as preferable and often as superior (I feel like I just revealed a secret of older generations of the KW born and bred :RpS_biggrin:). In this case, I think the connection of well known local interests with the Mayfair redevelopment will be positive for the eventual success of the venture.
UWaterloo
07-10-2011, 01:54 AM
That Sky Bar will be sweet. This will be a great addition to Downtown Kitchener and offer something different in terms of accommodation besides the Valhalla...sorry Delta Kitchener and Walper Terrace.
panamaniac
10-14-2012, 07:58 PM
Can't vouch for the information, but I was told the other day by a Downtown merchant that this project, planned as Phase 3 of City Centre, is now being moved forward and that shovels may be in the ground (or on the roof if you prefer!) by June, 2013. If so, it would be great news but like everything else to do with the Centre Block, there seems to be more rumour than any hard information.
DHLawrence
10-14-2012, 08:24 PM
This is probably the easiest part of the project to move ahead in the schedule; much of the finished product is already there. Meanwhile they can take a bit longer to get the major construction started.
luckee
10-14-2012, 08:47 PM
You will note the setbacks once the top floors of the Mayfair have been reached...excellent urban guidelines that many medium size cities are employing to improve a variety of variables...
In the case of the Bauer Lofts, the setbacks have the added advantage of creating patios and balconies...
4Kitchener
02-02-2013, 01:41 PM
Not sure exactly what they are doing... But looks like some reno's are going on at the Mayfair. Anyone have any insight to this?
It looks like most of the work so far is being done on the inside but I couldn't tell exactly what as I walked by.
Here's a quick shot of the back side of the building from today.
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KevinL
02-06-2013, 12:59 PM
Yikes! Looks like some kind of organic, tentacular creature has moved in.
Good to see progress, of whatever type.
BuildingScout
02-06-2013, 01:30 PM
From the outside that looks as part of mould/asbestos removal equipment.
panamaniac
02-06-2013, 07:57 PM
That's what I was thinking - a building that age might well need to be stripped of asbestos prior to renovation.
That's what I was thinking - a building that age might well need to be stripped of asbestos prior to renovation.
That is probably what they were doing but all the hoses were gone yesterday so they may be done that stage already.
panamaniac
02-21-2013, 09:57 AM
Mystery of the recent work at the Mayfair solved - and not in a good way.
Terry Pender, Record staff Thu Feb 21 2013 09:42:00
Burst pipe results in $250,000 cleanup at Mayfair Hotelhttp://media.therecord.com/images/cb/d5/e32c9e6c44c88a3c05b2cde0e3ce.jpg The Mayfair Hotel at King and Young streets in Kitchener in 2012.
Philip Walker/Record file photo
KITCHENER — It cost about $250,000 to clean up a historic downtown building after a water pipe inside froze and burst.
Cleanup crews worked for days inside the city-owned Mayfair Hotel after water ran down five floors for about 45 minutes on Jan. 29, flooding the basement of the six-storey building at the corner of King Street West and Young Street.
http://www.therecord.com/news/local/article/890728--burst-pipe-results-in-250-000-cleanup-at-mayfair-hotel
MonkeyGirl
02-21-2013, 12:35 PM
I thought this building was vacant. So why would the water still be turned on? Guess its not.
KevinL
02-21-2013, 12:55 PM
I thought this building was vacant. So why would the water still be turned on? Guess its not.The article specified this was a pipe in the sprinkler system, which you would want to keep pressurized.
panamaniac
05-03-2013, 09:35 AM
Heard yesterday that deal to transfer the Mayfair to the new developers is supposed to close next week. Here's hoping!
panamaniac
06-15-2013, 06:08 PM
In the realm of rumour, but I've heard that the restaurant in the new Mayfair will not/not be a Charcoal Group operation, contrary to initial expectations. I guess that means the eventual hotel operator will be responsible for the restaurant.
RangersFan
06-16-2013, 08:08 PM
In the realm of rumour, but I've heard that the restaurant in the new Mayfair will not/not be a Charcoal Group operation, contrary to initial expectations. I guess that means the eventual hotel operator will be responsible for the restaurant.
Whatever the situation I really hope the project goes ahead with a top quality roof top restaurant, I think that is one of the key unique features about this development.
panamaniac
06-16-2013, 08:43 PM
Last I heard, City Centre Phase 1 would be ready to get underway by the end of July. In the case of the Mayfair redevelopment, I suspect it will take a whlle to get things together because of the heritage elements. I hope they find a good operator for the hotel. I imagine the proponents could face an uphill struggle to convince a four-star boutique hotel operator to put their name on a building Downtown (although if Groupe Germain wanted to give it a go, I'd be delighted! Their hotel in Quebec City is just a bit smaller than the Mayfair is planned to be and it is terrific.).
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